but you know, president obama always talks about wanting to grow the economy from the middle class out, not from the top down. when you look at this jobs report, are there other weaknesses that you see? >> i just think that in general, the big weakness here is we still don't have enough jobs. 200,000's a great number but realistically, at this point in this recovery, we need to start worrying about is that going to be a high water mark as opposed to a step up to like 300,000, 400,000 a month which is what would really again, create the kind of pressure upward that we're just getting everybody a raise, basically. >> jim tankersley, thank you so much. we appreciate it. you look very sharp. i appreciate the beard as well. >> you should try it. >>> coming up on "the lead," he was in the oval office while nelson mandela sat in a prison cell. coming up next, we have former president jimmy carter who will share his memories of the south african leader with you and me. >>> plus, you might think partisan politics couldn't taint the legacy of an international icon. you might think that. you woul